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<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 15:54:12 +0000</pubDate>

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<title>DirkStabula on "Silent Spring Sooner Than You Think?"</title>
<link>http://www.paherp.org/forum/topic/silent-spring-sooner-than-you-think#post-695</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2011 19:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>DirkStabula</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Few people realize the subtle squeaks that send them gently off to sleep on starry spring nights are frequently caused by Spring Peepers, an adorable frog whose soporific squawk renders cacophonous crickets’ vibrations vapid. Yet, as Rachel Carson alluded to in her vanguard volume Silent Spring, Mother Nature stands to lose many of her composers. Due to the effects of Global Climate Change and habitat loss, Wood Frogs, Spring Peepers, an assortment of salamanders, and other creatures may lose their homes and disappear forever.&#60;br /&#62;
Many of these animals have complicated breeding needs that can only be met in temporary shallow woodland ponds known as vernal pools. These pools  provide an ideal habitat in which these delicate species can moisten their skin during the desiccant summer heat. Due to their ephemeral essence and inland isolation, vernal pools also provide a nursery ground for eggs and tadpoles devoid of predatory fish. The circle of life for amphibians revolves around the presence of these pools, which are diminishing in number for a multitude of reasons. Increased temperature shrivels the abundance and size of vernal pools. When climactic vicissitude violates the integrity of pools, it forces ambulatory amphibians to travel farther in their search for sanctuary, and habitat destruction due to the burgeoning human population’s endless quest for housing further reduces their options. Many salamander and frog species cannot withstand these perturbations, contributing to the general decline of the class amphibia.&#60;br /&#62;
Vernal pools are not only critical to the conservation of our amphibious friends, but also for the preservation of ground water and flood control. The loss of these pools impedes the ability of wetlands and wooded areas to absorb water after torrential downpours or during snowmelts. As witnessed this year, the loss of nature’s buffering system results in more frequent and severe flooding events, polluting water quality and accelerating soil erosion. Furthermore, the reduction in water absorption lowers the water tables, resulting in severe drought and habitat destruction during arid years. The consequences of these effects result in extraordinary economic loses and can be catastrophic for the agricultural community, recreational fishing and boating, and especially to drinking water.&#60;br /&#62;
The admittedly depressing loss of suitable habitat should not illicit lamentation, but rather urgency! Efforts to fight climate change should be strengthened, wildlife sanctuaries extended, and efforts taken to physically rebuild vernal pools by digging out areas where rainfall can pool. By implementing these changes, water quality will be maintained, economic losses from natural flooding can be mitigated, and most importantly, the health and vitality of both communities will be preserved. If we don’t, we may be facing our own silent spring sooner than you think.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Dirk Stabula and the HerpetoloG-Unit&#60;br /&#62;
Lafayette College&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Contact Mr. Bill Sweeney for more information on how to help amphibians at Jacobsburg State Park!
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<title>jennysrainbow on "Help with snake id please"</title>
<link>http://www.paherp.org/forum/topic/help-with-snake-id-please#post-692</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 08 Oct 2011 15:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>jennysrainbow</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Thanks!
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<title>paherp on "Help with snake id please"</title>
<link>http://www.paherp.org/forum/topic/help-with-snake-id-please#post-691</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 08 Oct 2011 02:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Juvi. water snake
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<title>jennysrainbow on "Help with snake id please"</title>
<link>http://www.paherp.org/forum/topic/help-with-snake-id-please#post-690</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 08 Oct 2011 00:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I haven&#38;#039;t posted in ages... but would love a bit of input here. Last week, my husband and I found this little guy in the road by our house. He was all coiled up and tried his hardest to strike and bite any time my husband got close to it. Finally, he was able to pick him up and bring him into the safety of our yard. (We find far too many run over in the streets) We&#38;#039;re just not sure what type of snake it is....I&#38;#039;ve gotten everything from Eastern Milk snake to Black Rat snake to Northern Water snake.  Here are some pics:&#60;/p&#62;
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<title>paherp on "Late Summer Tadpoles in Vernal Pond ID Help"</title>
<link>http://www.paherp.org/forum/topic/late-summer-tadpoles-in-vernal-pond-id-help#post-689</link>
<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2011 18:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Some frogs such as bulls and greens will do two years, thought 1.5 inches seems rather small for last years. They could be gray tree frogs. Have any photos of the tadpoles?
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<title>VB on "Late Summer Tadpoles in Vernal Pond ID Help"</title>
<link>http://www.paherp.org/forum/topic/late-summer-tadpoles-in-vernal-pond-id-help#post-688</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2011 02:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>VB</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I have a small vernal pond area at a property in Venango County (NW PA), that has been experiencing a growth in reptile usage over the past several years.  This past spring was the 2nd very good year for Wood Frogs.  The local wood turtles and snakes frequent the pond as does an occassional heron&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;It is also home to green frogs and newts, and nearby are tree frogs, pickeral frogs, an occassional chorus, and of course, Spring Peepers.  Rarely if ever is there a bullfrog in the area.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Just a few weeks ago, we noticed tadpoles in the pond, and while we check it weekly, had not seen any eggs or masses prior to that.   The tadpoles are not numerous (i.e. not like the wood frogs), but are very noticeable and are about 1.5 inches long.  &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Suggestions as to what they might be, and are they &#38;quot;2 year&#38;quot; tadpoles now currently in their 1st year.
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<title>paherp on "Looking for a home for my Rosy Boa..."</title>
<link>http://www.paherp.org/forum/topic/looking-for-a-home-for-my-rosy-boa#post-687</link>
<pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2011 15:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Hope you can find a home for you Rosy. Also try &#60;a href=&#34;http://forum.forgottenfriend.org/&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://forum.forgottenfriend.org/&#60;/a&#62;
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<title>jmsst2 on "Looking for a home for my Rosy Boa..."</title>
<link>http://www.paherp.org/forum/topic/looking-for-a-home-for-my-rosy-boa#post-686</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2011 21:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Hello all.&#60;br /&#62;
I am in desperate need of finding a home for my rosy boa (approx 40 inches long).  I am relocating and am unable to take her with me.  Comes with a 75 gal tank and stand.  If interested, or know anyone that may be, please reply to this, or contact me at &#60;a href=&#34;mailto:jmsst2@yahoo.com&#34;&#62;jmsst2@yahoo.com&#60;/a&#62;.  Thanks!
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<title>paherp on "What snake is this? Not native to PA"</title>
<link>http://www.paherp.org/forum/topic/what-snake-is-this#post-685</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2011 19:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I found one a few years back. To bad it was already hit by a car. I tend to think someone just threw it out the car. It looked fine and not hit till I picked it up and blood started coming out of its moutn. &#60;/p&#62;
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&#60;p&#62;Funny thought riding down the road and passing it then running every native species though my mind, then asking myself &#38;quot;What the heck was that?!?&#38;quot;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Amazing how many pets and released pets show up. I get a few emails a year.
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<title>krloucks on "What snake is this? Not native to PA"</title>
<link>http://www.paherp.org/forum/topic/what-snake-is-this#post-684</link>
<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jul 2011 07:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;You are correct...
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<title>seto2112 on "Ratsnakes"</title>
<link>http://www.paherp.org/forum/topic/ratsnakes#post-683</link>
<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 23:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Okay if you do-I&#38;#039;ll post the different ones I have photos of from PA-I&#38;#039;ll keep that green/brown Eastern Ratsnake found just outside the Eastern range in my file until then. It&#38;#039;s so hard to keep up with the changes over the last 2 years--scientific names and all. LOL! hmm maybe I should post it anyway...
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<title>seto2112 on "What snake is this? Not native to PA"</title>
<link>http://www.paherp.org/forum/topic/what-snake-is-this#post-682</link>
<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 23:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Found in Royersford, Montgomery County -approx 14 inches long&#60;br /&#62;
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&#60;p&#62;Photo was sent to me to ID-I&#38;#039;m thinking someone&#38;#039;s pet Cal King escaped.
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<title>krloucks on "Ratsnakes"</title>
<link>http://www.paherp.org/forum/topic/ratsnakes#post-681</link>
<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 20:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>krloucks</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;We&#38;#039;ve have not separated the ratsnakes... I believe we are still following SSAR which lumps them all into &#60;em&#62;allegheniensis&#60;/em&#62; for everything east of the mississippi.
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<title>seto2112 on "Ratsnakes"</title>
<link>http://www.paherp.org/forum/topic/ratsnakes#post-680</link>
<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 04:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>seto2112</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Do you seperate the Eastern Ratsnake from the Midland Ratsnake here? Not sure how the CNAH came up with that and making the Yellow the same as the Eastern Ratsnake and all that stuff. DNA? Wow! The PAFBC made me get a permit to keep my CB OLD Yellow Ratsnake....and my Greenish ones....(yellow X black)&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Anyway-if you do then I have both photographed..by location. If not-no biggie-except to the PAFBC I guess...confused....
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<title>seto2112 on "Yellow Belly Cooter?"</title>
<link>http://www.paherp.org/forum/topic/yellow-belly-cooter#post-679</link>
<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 01:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>seto2112</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;okay  :3
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<title>paherp on "Yellow Belly Cooter?"</title>
<link>http://www.paherp.org/forum/topic/yellow-belly-cooter#post-678</link>
<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2011 21:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>paherp</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Okay Okay lol you can now add Sliders in the database.
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<title>krloucks on "Yellow Belly Cooter?"</title>
<link>http://www.paherp.org/forum/topic/yellow-belly-cooter#post-677</link>
<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2011 20:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>krloucks</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Yes, a yellow belly.  Get this in the database!
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<title>seto2112 on "So Far this year"</title>
<link>http://www.paherp.org/forum/topic/so-far-this-year#post-675</link>
<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2011 00:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Need to add-Northern Dusky Salamanders and a Yellow Belly Cooter-go figure.
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<title>seto2112 on "Yellow Belly Cooter?"</title>
<link>http://www.paherp.org/forum/topic/yellow-belly-cooter#post-674</link>
<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2011 00:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>seto2112</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Photographed today at the Lehigh Canal in Carbon County&#60;/p&#62;
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&#60;p&#62;hope I did this right
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<title>paherp on "So Far this year"</title>
<link>http://www.paherp.org/forum/topic/so-far-this-year#post-673</link>
<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 16:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Sounds like a productive year so far.
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<title>paherp on "Red-Eared Sliders"</title>
<link>http://www.paherp.org/forum/topic/red-eared-sliders#post-672</link>
<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 16:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I have been meaning to put in RES and YBS for a while. Let me put it on my list of things to do.
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<title>Gully on "Can&#039;t locate any ringnecks"</title>
<link>http://www.paherp.org/forum/topic/cant-locate-any-ringnecks#post-671</link>
<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 16:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Yeah we have tons of red back salamanders in fact I have them under rocks beside my house and I know they are a staple food for ring necks but I have never seen any in my area but when I use to be a member of the Herp association around here they all said they see them regulary. It&#38;#039;s my favorite pa snake, actually growing up in like grade school friends of mine brought some in to school they found by a stream I live 10 feet away from but I flipped every blessed rock on that bank and can&#38;#039;t find a single one lol. So it&#38;#039;s been my personal mission to locate them near me for a long time
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<title>seto2112 on "Pa Wilds"</title>
<link>http://www.paherp.org/forum/topic/pa-wilds#post-670</link>
<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 16:09:06 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>seto2112</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;That frog looks like a Northern Cricket Frog. Great Photos!
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<title>seto2112 on "Can&#039;t locate any ringnecks"</title>
<link>http://www.paherp.org/forum/topic/cant-locate-any-ringnecks#post-669</link>
<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 16:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>seto2112</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;That&#38;#039;s odd-I live about an hour from you and they are the most common snake I see on my street. Then again-to find a Red-Belly Snake I have to go 20 miles north of here. I noticed they feed on Red-Backed Salamanders here-do you have any of those around? I would look in areas where those salamanders are abundant. Just a thought.
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<title>seto2112 on "PA Herp Laws-between a rock and a hard place"</title>
<link>http://www.paherp.org/forum/topic/pa-herp-laws-between-a-rock-and-a-hard-place#post-668</link>
<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 15:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>seto2112</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;So far no problems have occurred -Thank God!
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<title>seto2112 on "Red-Eared Sliders"</title>
<link>http://www.paherp.org/forum/topic/red-eared-sliders#post-667</link>
<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 15:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>seto2112</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Is there a place in the database for those-there is a breeding population in my area now....sigh...each year I see more and more of them-all ages...I have photos.
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<title>krloucks on "PA Herp Laws-between a rock and a hard place"</title>
<link>http://www.paherp.org/forum/topic/pa-herp-laws-between-a-rock-and-a-hard-place#post-666</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2011 23:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>krloucks</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Still want to be on the right side of the law... Be straightforward with  the officers and there should be no problem.  My encounters have ended positively luckily and all have been good folks.
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<title>seto2112 on "PA Herp Laws-between a rock and a hard place"</title>
<link>http://www.paherp.org/forum/topic/pa-herp-laws-between-a-rock-and-a-hard-place#post-665</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2011 03:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>seto2112</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Thanks for your support!  I think I might have an idea. Have the Police Officer and/or Park Ranger go along and document the release. Just like it was documented that the Timber bodies were turned over to the CCEEC (Environmental center) See the posted record on that stupid incident.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;There is one other thing I want to know-why aren&#38;#039;t park rangers trained to move snakes themselves-they have the equipment but don&#38;#039;t know how to use it?!  What is up with that? I could train someone in 10 minutes to use it properly. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;AND when you report someone poaching from State Parks-they don&#38;#039;t do anything about it. Even when the person has the snake openly in hand. The park in my area is very specific about NOT removing anything-not even flowers or rocks! Then I get conflicting info-while messing with a Black Racer to get photos-they told me-take it out of here( the park) cos we don&#38;#039;t want them here....WTF!  Then while walking with a snake hook-which I haven&#38;#039;t done in years since-I got frisked to see what I might have used it for.....I was like I used it to get the snake into a better position for a photo and it wasn&#38;#039;t a protected species then or now. So fine-I&#38;#039;ll just bitten to get a better shot of a Black Racer--does that make them happy?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Sorry for venting a bit...oh yeah-and get this..while walking, I came across a ranger who I knew, and he asked me to catch a Timber and a Copperhead in said park for him to use for instructing new recruits....I was like I don&#38;#039;t want to get into trouble....sigh....luckily I had 3 witnesses and one of those people did have a catch permit. Still-I don&#38;#039;t get if those cover State Parks and/or Gamelands. One person says yes and another says no. Sigh....
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<title>krloucks on "Can&#039;t locate any ringnecks"</title>
<link>http://www.paherp.org/forum/topic/cant-locate-any-ringnecks#post-663</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2011 00:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>krloucks</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I am in Bucks county, I have never found them to be numerous here like they are up further in the state.  Also, this time of year, of course they like it cool. On several occassions I have found them under rocks right at the edge of streams...
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<title>krloucks on "PA Herp Laws-between a rock and a hard place"</title>
<link>http://www.paherp.org/forum/topic/pa-herp-laws-between-a-rock-and-a-hard-place#post-662</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2011 00:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>krloucks</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;It is kinda the same as moving a box turtle off of a road.... &#38;#039;in hand&#38;quot; can be deemed &#38;quot;possession&#38;quot; and is against the law.  But, the law aside, I would still do the right thing and move the turtle 100% of the time.  So if you are doing the right thing by removing snakes, permit or not, I would do it.  Hopefully any officer would recognize rescuer vs. poacher.&#60;br /&#62;
Good work by you... keep it up.
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<title>krloucks on "PA Herp Laws-between a rock and a hard place"</title>
<link>http://www.paherp.org/forum/topic/pa-herp-laws-between-a-rock-and-a-hard-place#post-661</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2011 00:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>krloucks</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;It is kinda the same as moving a box turtle off of a road.... &#38;#039;in hand&#38;quot; can be deemed &#38;quot;possession&#38;quot; and is against the law.  But, the law aside, I would still do the right thing and move the turtle 100% of the time.  So if you are doing the right thing by removing snakes, permit or not, I would do it.  Hopefully any officer would recognize rescuer vs. poacher.&#60;br /&#62;
Good work by you... keep it up.
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<title>seto2112 on "PA Herp Laws-between a rock and a hard place"</title>
<link>http://www.paherp.org/forum/topic/pa-herp-laws-between-a-rock-and-a-hard-place#post-660</link>
<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2011 14:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>seto2112</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Okay I can&#38;#039;t get a straight answer from the PAFBC on removing snakes from people&#38;#039;s homes. For some reason I get called from time to time. Just because the local police know that I know about snakes and have extensive experience with them. 30 years. Which includes doing educational programs and so on. Anyway-I called the PAFBC last year and they told me-they don&#38;#039;t remove snakes cos they don&#38;#039;t have the budget or manpower.&#60;br /&#62;
&#38;quot;Snakes can be removed by anyone-a neighbor, a police officer, a snake expert, exterminator, wildlife center-because we don&#38;#039;t do it anymore&#38;quot; &#38;quot;The only restriction is that whoever does it may not kill the snakes&#38;quot;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Now wait does that include protected species ? and she said Yes. I asked does that include Rattlesnakes and Copperheads for which you need a permit and she said &#38;quot;it&#38;#039;s not like you&#38;#039;re catching them to keep or eat, so it&#38;#039;s different.&#38;quot; So I then asked-&#38;quot;but can&#38;#039;t I get into trouble for possession?&#38;quot; :She said &#38;quot;Not under those circumstances-you are an agent of the police&#38;quot;&#60;br /&#62;
Okay?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;This year-I called again about this-and the guy asked who told me the original info and I told him. He&#38;#039;s not sure that is correct and is supposed to get back to me. He morally thinks it&#38;#039;s fine to try to save the animals but doesn&#38;#039;t know what the legalities are. Does anyone here have a clue? Most people won&#38;#039;t remove a Milksnake from their bathroom closet!! etc. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;BTW-Since websites like this and mine and other ones can ID snakes online quickly-80 % of the people who get IDs will leave it alone-unless it&#38;#039;s in their house or is venomous. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I don&#38;#039;t want to get into trouble for by doing something the police ask me to do.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Just to note-I never keep anything-I release them outside the home or within the same area because I know they have territories.
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<title>Gully on "Can&#039;t locate any ringnecks"</title>
<link>http://www.paherp.org/forum/topic/cant-locate-any-ringnecks#post-659</link>
<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2011 13:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Gully</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I have been herping around the Bethlehem area since I was a lil guy and I have yet to find a ringneck can any one give me a spot around the Bethlehem area where they have found a ringneck I wanna photograph some and all I ever seem to find is garters, salamanders , and northern waters.and if there is anyone in the Allentown Bethlehem area that wants to go field herping let me know
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<title>seto2112 on "So Far this year"</title>
<link>http://www.paherp.org/forum/topic/so-far-this-year#post-658</link>
<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2011 04:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>seto2112</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I&#38;#039;ve seen: In PA&#60;br /&#62;
Eastern Gartersnake&#60;br /&#62;
N. Ringneck&#60;br /&#62;
E.  Ratsnake&#60;br /&#62;
Timbers&#60;br /&#62;
Copperheads&#60;br /&#62;
N.Watersnake&#60;br /&#62;
N. Black Racer&#60;br /&#62;
N.Brown Snake&#60;br /&#62;
E.Milksnakes&#60;br /&#62;
E. Hognose&#60;br /&#62;
and a lovely photo of a Queensnake found a hour from where I live...&#60;br /&#62;
5-line Skink&#60;br /&#62;
American Toad&#60;br /&#62;
Pickerel Frog&#60;br /&#62;
Bullfrog&#60;br /&#62;
Bronze Frog&#60;br /&#62;
Grey Treefrog&#60;br /&#62;
Wood Frog&#60;br /&#62;
Spring Peepers&#60;br /&#62;
Red Back Salamander&#60;br /&#62;
Painted Turtle&#60;br /&#62;
Musk Turtle&#60;br /&#62;
Spotted Turtle&#60;br /&#62;
Wood Turtle&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I&#38;#039;m not really looking for them most of the time. I see them while walking, driving, gardening or looking for insects.(and on vacations, etc,) This would explain my lack of salamanders I guess-just not looking.
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<title>krloucks on "Pa Wilds"</title>
<link>http://www.paherp.org/forum/topic/pa-wilds#post-657</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2011 23:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>krloucks</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Yeah, not many things to be seen in northern Pa in July.  Add on the fact that it was the driest June in 20 years making it&#60;br /&#62;
slim pickins for the most part.  But, I did scare a few  critters up.  Had the family with me so had to be sensitive to time spent.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;A few years ago, I had a nice new spot where I could find greens, redbellies, ringnecks, etc.  Then the gas drilling companies moved in.&#60;/p&#62;
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&#60;p&#62;A pipeline was also installed on top of where we flipped everything... that was two years ago.  I was po&#38;#039;d.&#60;br /&#62;
Gas companies are drilling everywhere, swarming in like locusts, then leaving when things run dry.  &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Here is the same pad now.&#60;/p&#62;
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&#60;p&#62;and what has replaced our flipping site.&#60;/p&#62;
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&#60;p&#62;However, like all of us, power line cuts and gas right-of-ways can turn into some great habitat. &#60;/p&#62;
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&#60;p&#62; While we are temporarily &#38;quot;put off&#38;quot;, the pipe line installation has unearthed a lot of cover rocks.  &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;My daughter Kacie at the spot where she flipped her first smooth Green Snake two years ago.&#60;/p&#62;
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&#60;p&#62;We flipped a lot of rocks and Kacie did find a single Northern Redbellied Snake... We figure in a year or two, we should flip&#60;br /&#62;
plenty more, and hopefully some green snakes.&#60;/p&#62;
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&#60;p&#62;On our way back, we stopped a few other sites for some quick flippage...&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Kacie flipped a green snake at the first rock...&#60;/p&#62;
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&#60;p&#62;Also flipped a few Northern Redbellied snakes... (15)&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Just about all the females were bulging.&#60;br /&#62;
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&#60;p&#62;This one had a cool blue-ish racing stripe.&#60;br /&#62;
&#60;img src=&#34;http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w175/krloucks/011%20Herping/7-11%20Pa%20Wilds/DSCN8367.jpg&#34;&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;The next day, we continued on our trek to visit several state parks and do some geocaching.  Herping of course is a given.&#60;br /&#62;
While stopped on a rural road, I was looking for rocks to flip for more fossorials when my wife and son yelled &#38;quot;snake&#38;quot; simultaneously.&#60;/p&#62;
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&#60;p&#62;Out of her window, my wife spotted this beauty.&#60;/p&#62;
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&#60;p&#62;Kris wanted credit for the find so I had the girls pose.&#60;/p&#62;
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&#60;p&#62;Looking for geocache&#38;#039;s can lead you to some cool spots...&#60;/p&#62;
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&#60;p&#62;Kris - eagle eyes- spotted these little peepers.&#60;/p&#62;
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&#60;p&#62;Also saw this odd specimen... not a peeper.&#60;/p&#62;
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&#60;p&#62;My son Konnor makin me proud.&#60;/p&#62;
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&#60;p&#62;He was proud of himself anyway...&#60;/p&#62;
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&#60;p&#62;He also scooped up a couple metamorphosing bullfrogs...&#60;/p&#62;
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&#60;p&#62;Behemoths...&#60;/p&#62;
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&#60;p&#62;It was a nice few days... here is some parting shots.&#60;/p&#62;
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&#60;p&#62;&#38;quot;No Hellbenders here dad...&#38;quot;&#60;/p&#62;
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